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CDF TOC Meeting Agenda
----------------------
Logistics:
- Meeting: [*https://zoom.us/my/cdf.toc*](https://zoom.us/my/cdf.toc)
- Youtube Channel:
> [*https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7HcWhSetq6nTlpMXPHKz\_A*](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7HcWhSetq6nTlpMXPHKz_A)
- Twitter:
> [*https://twitter.com/CDeliveryFdn*](https://twitter.com/CDeliveryFdn)
January 14, 2020:
-----------------
- **TOC Attendees:**
- Kohsuke Kawaguchi (Cloudbees/Jenkins) \[CHAIR\] - present
- James Strachan (Cloudbees/Jenkins X) - not present
- Dan Lorenc (Google/Tekton) - not present
- Andy Glover (Netflix/Spinnaker) - not present
- Tara Hernandez (Google) - present
- Yoav Landman (JFrog) - not present
- **Other Attendees:**
- Dan Lopez (Linux Foundation) - present
- Fatih Degirmenci (Ericsson Software Technology)
- David Lai - (Futurewei, CDF Governing Board)
- Katrin Runser (JFrog)
- **Agenda and Notes:**
- SIG-Interoperability (Fatih)
- Voting started on December 12th.
- Mail thread:
> [*https://lists.cd.foundation/g/cdf-toc/topic/68289307*](https://lists.cd.foundation/g/cdf-toc/topic/68289307)
- +1 binding TOC votes (6/6)
- Dan Lorenc:
> [*https://lists.cd.foundation/g/cdf-toc/message/312*](https://lists.cd.foundation/g/cdf-toc/message/312)
- Andy Glover:
> [*https://lists.cd.foundation/g/cdf-toc/message/316*](https://lists.cd.foundation/g/cdf-toc/message/316)
- Yoav Landman:
> [*https://lists.cd.foundation/g/cdf-toc/message/317*](https://lists.cd.foundation/g/cdf-toc/message/317)
- Tara Hernandez:
> [*https://lists.cd.foundation/g/cdf-toc/message/318*](https://lists.cd.foundation/g/cdf-toc/message/318)
- Kohsuke Kawaguchi:
> [*https://lists.cd.foundation/g/cdf-toc/message/325*](https://lists.cd.foundation/g/cdf-toc/message/325)
- James Strachan:
> [*https://lists.cd.foundation/g/cdf-toc/message/327*](https://lists.cd.foundation/g/cdf-toc/message/327)
- +1 non-binding community votes
- Michael Winser:
> [*https://lists.cd.foundation/g/cdf-toc/message/313*](https://lists.cd.foundation/g/cdf-toc/message/313)
- Avi Kessner:
> [*https://lists.cd.foundation/g/cdf-toc/message/314*](https://lists.cd.foundation/g/cdf-toc/message/314)
- Tracy Miranda:
> [*https://lists.cd.foundation/g/cdf-toc/message/319*](https://lists.cd.foundation/g/cdf-toc/message/319)
- Alejandro Saucedo:
> [*https://lists.cd.foundation/g/cdf-toc/message/326*](https://lists.cd.foundation/g/cdf-toc/message/326)
- Mail thread/PR
- Mail thread:
> [*https://lists.cd.foundation/g/cdf-toc/topic/60607236*](https://lists.cd.foundation/g/cdf-toc/topic/60607236)
- PR:
> [*https://github.com/cdfoundation/toc/pull/62*](https://github.com/cdfoundation/toc/pull/62) -
> Merged (DLopez)
- Next steps?
- Merging the PR
- TOC member or Dan Lopez can merge once TOC confirms
> with votes
- Dan Lopez merged:
> [*https://github.com/cdfoundation/toc/blob/master/sigs/sig-interoperability.md*](https://github.com/cdfoundation/toc/blob/master/sigs/sig-interoperability.md)
- Logistics:
- Repos
- [*https://github.com/cdfoundation/sig-Interoperability*](https://github.com/cdfoundation/sig-Interoperability)
- Maillist
- [*https://lists.cd.foundation/g/sig-interoperability*](https://lists.cd.foundation/g/sig-interoperability)
- Slack channel
- \#sig-interoperability
- Zoom access
- Every (?) Thursday? Of the month
- Survey is setup:
> [*https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5X6GXPM*](https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5X6GXPM)
- Once this is determined, Dan Lopez can setup the
> conf line
- should we create issues in CDF Github for these?
- Issues related to SIG should be created in the
> respective repo. CDF support required then the
> issue should be placed on the foundation
> service desk repo
- FD: Thanks Dan for getting all the logistics sorted out in
> the last few days
- FD: I’m in the process of figuring out the meeting slot
> & frequency. Hopefully wrapping that up by Sunday and the
> first meeting the next week
- FD: still looking for more participants to the ML.
- SIG Security (Kay)
- << skipped >>
- Projects
- DLz: Screwdriver
- Move screwdriver.cd folder in /proposals to /incubating
> folder in toc repo?
- Meeting this Friday 9am PT for IP / asset transfer
> discussion
- KK: what about Jenkins transfer?
- DLz: let’s recap the context again and we’ll go from
> there
- Funding, IP, infra, ...
- Other Business
- Project Service Service Desk -
> [*https://cd.foundation/project-services/*](https://cd.foundation/project-services/)
- DLz: this provides better tracking of the work for
> the foundation. Mostly manned by me and Jac
- KK: shall we create tickets for Jenkins transfer & infra
> here? DLz: yes
- 2020 Incubating Project recruiting:
> [*https://github.com/cdfoundation/toc/blob/master/PROJECT\_LIFECYCLE.md\#project-proposal-requirements*](https://github.com/cdfoundation/toc/blob/master/PROJECT_LIFECYCLE.md#project-proposal-requirements)
- DLz: GB meeting talked about project recruiting.
- Tara: DLc and I have been talking with Kaptn around
> “event management.” Hoping DLc will be back from the
- Tara: I think the roadmap work has landed but PR has not
> been merged. I’m flagging this
- Tara: I had a meeting over a break to meet with “process
> oriented folks” — that led to Resiliency SIG. Working on
> a PR. Expect to hear updates the next month.
- DLz: DoD might become a member, with projects.
> “Hardedend repo for K8s” and something
> something resiliency. Might be useful connecting dots
> with the above.
- Annual Report 2019 - Draft review (Jacque S to send out)
- DLz: wrapping up a final draft, please review.
- DLz: We need numbers from JX — contirbutor numbers. KK:
> send that to me & Tracy Miranda.
- [*CDF Cluster*](https://github.com/cdfoundation/cluster)
- Bare metal cluster provided by Packet (now Equinox.)
- KK: would be good to connect infra-focused people
> across various projects.
- DLz: this is used extensively by CNCF
- CFP Committee
- Jac: CD Summit Amsterdam — Christie Wilson sent out a
> CfP email yesterday as a chair. Outreach committee
> already knows. Feel free to pass it on. (CfP ends?)
> Feb 7th. And notification goes out Feb 14th.
- Jac: Emily is our event manager. If you are interested
> in sponsors, talk to her.
- Mindshare cocktail hour in Kubecon US was
> very successful. Want to replicate that if you are
> looking to sponsor that <wink wink>
- Jac: this year we will look more proactively for
> sponsors
- KK: will forward those to Jenkins contributors & users
-
December 17, 2019:
------------------
- **TOC Attendees:**
- Kohsuke Kawaguchi (Jenkins) \[CHAIR\] - not present
- James Strachan (Jenkins X) - not present
- Dan Lorenc (Tekton) - not present
- Andy Glover (Spinnaker) - present
- Tara Hernandez (Google) - present
- Yoav Landman (JFrog) - not present
- **Other Attendees:**
- Dan Lopez (Linux Foundation)
- Fatih Degirmenci (Ericsson Software Technology)
- Kay Williams (Microsoft)
- W. Watson - w.watson@vulk.coop (Vulk coop, cncf.ci, cnftestbed)
- **Agenda and Notes:**
- SIG-Security (Kay)
- Resume biweekly meetings (post holidays) - Tuesday Jan 14, 8
> AM Pacific
- Supply Chain Security/Compliance
- Readme
> [*here*](https://github.com/cdfoundation/sig-security-supply-chain)
- Framework document
> [*here*](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_5ZnoLzQ1AqMYzXZ_avbqILRgAsfuEnkL3TTbg9LfnU/edit?usp=sharing)
![](media/image1.png){width="7.625in" height="2.2083333333333335in"}
- Software Bill of Materials (SBOM)
- Readme here:
> [*https://github.com/cdfoundation/sig-security-sbom*](https://github.com/cdfoundation/sig-security-sbom)
- SPDX from the LF is also involved
- Draft standard submission date: February 24, 2020
<!-- -->
- SIG-Interoperability
- Proposed to CDF on November 19th.
- Mail thread:
> [*https://lists.cd.foundation/g/cdf-toc/topic/60607236*](https://lists.cd.foundation/g/cdf-toc/topic/60607236)
- PR:
> [*https://github.com/cdfoundation/toc/pull/62*](https://github.com/cdfoundation/toc/pull/62)
- Voting started on December 12th.
- Mail thread:
> [*https://lists.cd.foundation/g/cdf-toc/topic/68289307*](https://lists.cd.foundation/g/cdf-toc/topic/68289307)
- CD Summit @ Kubecon Europe/Amsterdam?
- Is it planned to happen, eg. Day-0 event?
- If so, when will the CFP be open?
- DLop / JS to follow up with LF Kubecon Events team
- Other Technical Business
- Screwdriver.cd PR:
> [*https://github.com/cdfoundation/toc/pull/63*](https://github.com/cdfoundation/toc/pull/63)
- DLop: TOC request to merge
- Tara: TOC to reach out the Jithine
- Telemetry updates
- Spinnaker
- [*https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ipD3ZOFJrhL3mXvmLxGGnqtsik0axXSdOKk2T8vha4o/edit\#heading=h.aac2ptz9i8z1*](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ipD3ZOFJrhL3mXvmLxGGnqtsik0axXSdOKk2T8vha4o/edit#heading=h.aac2ptz9i8z1)
- Complete, baselined as PDF and published
- Tekton
- [*https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XSFu0mj\_u\_PjLMtQWsvVSBgJpBpf6ZyAp1FeCgNJo1g/edit*](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XSFu0mj_u_PjLMtQWsvVSBgJpBpf6ZyAp1FeCgNJo1g/edit)
- In progress
- Tara will check with Tekton team to see where they are
> at(almost done??)
- Jenkins
- [*https://docs.google.com/document/d/1I\_s4DOoUaAJumJT1LqwIuzNrbH8tuE10Iia4QKWwRfk/edit?ts=5df79c21*](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1I_s4DOoUaAJumJT1LqwIuzNrbH8tuE10Iia4QKWwRfk/edit?ts=5df79c21)
- In progress
- Code Signing updates
- Corporate verification under compliance review with
> Digicert, pending completion
- Should hear back before holidays, DLop will send update via
> groups.io and github ticket to close out
Nov 19, 2019 :
--------------
- **TOC Attendees:**
- Kohsuke Kawaguchi (Jenkins) \[CHAIR\] - present
- James Strachan (Jenkins X) - not present
- Dan Lorenc (Tekton) - present
- Andy Glover (Spinnaker) - present
- Tara Hernandez (Google) - present
- Yoav Landman (JFrog) - present
- **Other Attendees:**
- Fatih Degirmenci, Ericsson Software Technology
- Alejandro Saucedo, Seldon / The Institute for Ethical AI &
> Machine Learning
- Simon Kaegi, IBM
- Katrin Runser
- Kay Williams, SIG-Security, Microsoft
- Kim Lewandowski, Google
- Joel Friedman, Google
- Jithin Emmanuel, Verizon Media
- A
- **Agenda and Notes:**
- Recap of actions
- Code signing certificate happened
- Action: KK to ask Oleg to report back what they have and
> how other projects can join and use.
- CDF will use Digicert as provider
- New legal entity setup for code signing
- Landscape
- No pending PRs at the moment
- It’s already public:
> [*https://github.com/cdfoundation/cdf-landscape*](https://github.com/cdfoundation/cdf-landscape)
- Tara: how about adding Screwdriver.cd
- Action: Jithin to create a PR
- SIG-Security
- Supply Chain
- CD Summit slides
> [*here*](https://drive.google.com/open?id=11Zd9GW9YkfhMQ0gXpfjpfzRL65wJVIPe)
- We now have GitHub repo, slack channel and list (thanks
> Dan Lopez!)
- Slack: \#sig-security-supply-chain
- Github:
> [*https://github.com/cdfoundation/sig-security-supply-chain*](https://github.com/cdfoundation/sig-security-supply-chain)
- List:
> [sig-security-supply-chain@lists.cd.foundation](http://sig-security-supply-chain@lists.cd.foundation)
- KubeCon Meetup - Thursday 9 AM to 12 PM
- Agenda
- [*here*](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IGYST0x-Xla0qZNk1ZfS1l9Om702-shUvhsBPUq4b9g/edit#)
- On-site:
- Marriott Marquis, North Tower, 1st Floor
- Conference Room - Torrey Pines 3
- Kay: there is some extra expense to arrange
> the necessary equipments. Will talk to Dan
> to see how to reimburse that (Dan said to
> send to operations@cd.foundation and
> copy Jacque)
- Remote:
- [*Join Microsoft Teams
> Meeting*](https://teams.microsoft.com/l/meetup-join/19%3ameeting_ODdjZTk4OTItMzFkMS00NjJjLTg3NjctMGZjMzc4MmI5NTBm%40thread.v2/0?context=%7b%22Tid%22%3a%2272f988bf-86f1-41af-91ab-2d7cd011db47%22%2c%22Oid%22%3a%22531852bd-66b0-45f7-abad-b1e0ad3b3a32%22%7d)
- +1 425-616-0754 United States, Seattle (Toll)
- KK: in-toto presentation yesterday was great
- Raj: is it going to be available somewhere? Jac: on
> YouTube & GitHub CDF org
- Roadmap WG
- Vote concluded
- **KK: need more people to join the brainstorming**
- **KK: and then schedule the session**
- Screwdriver.cd vote
- **KK to send out one more reminder**
- Big change from the last time was the growth plan
- Dan: Two TOC sponsors are missing
- KK and Tara volunteered to sponsor
- Kim: is there a doc that captures the process? Yes, at
> [*here*](https://github.com/cdfoundation/toc/blob/master/PROJECT_LIFECYCLE.md)
> but this is the first time so we are also debugging on the
> fly
- CD Summit presentations
- [*https://github.com/cdfoundation/presentations/tree/master/2019-summit-sandiego*](https://github.com/cdfoundation/presentations/tree/master/2019-summit-sandiego)
- AOB?
- Kim: wrt CDF program plan & goals, how are we supporting
> different projects?
- We should have interview sessions to hear out projects.
- Infra spend, code signing c
- Kim: did we present devstats?
- KK: I don’t think so.
- Jac: we’d like to see annual report of what projects have
> delivered?
- Goals are to help marketing and keep sponsors happy
- Jac: I’d love to hear where they need help \[so that the
> rest of the org can rally around\]
- We want to have a closed-to-final version \[of the annual
> report\] within this year, to be published early next year
- Kim: is there a version from CNCF that we can use as a
> reference?
> [*Yes*](https://www.cncf.io/cncf-annual-report-2018/)
- &lt;&lt; Round table in-person intro &gt;&gt;
-
Nov 5, 2019 :
-------------
- **TOC Attendees:**
- Kohsuke Kawaguchi (Jenkins) \[CHAIR\] - present
- James Strachan (Jenkins X) -
- Dan Lorenc (Tekton) - present
- Andy Glover (Spinnaker) -
- Tara Hernandez (Google) - present
- Yoav Landman (JFrog) -
- **Other Attendees:**
- Kay Williams (Microsoft)
- Jacqueline Salinas (LF)
- Dan Lopez (LF)
- David Lai (Huawei)
- Spencer Krum (IBM)
- Matt Young (Puppet)
- **Agenda and Notes:**
- Recap of actions
- Tara and DLz to propose a rotating call schedule
- Tara: we kicked around a few ideas. Pending ack from
> DLz, which was given during the call. It’ll come to
> the TOC list soon.
- Kohsuke to initiate the telemetry review process for the
> Jenkins project
- The main difference is opt-in/opt-out.
- Kohsuke to ping James Strachan to check the status of
> Jenkins X wrt telemetry
- KK: I did talk to others in the project, gave them a
> heads up, and confirmed that there’s no
> collection today.
- (CD summit NA meeting space): Jac to ping Emily to see if
> she can help with nearby hotels, etc.
- DLz: looking hotels near the convention center. Will
> have a meeting tomorrow. Update will come afterward.
- DLz: this will be Tue or Wed. Kay: I prefer Wed
- Jac: CD summit
- We’ve asked volunteers to produce “pop up demos” from
> general members.
- We’ve only got DeployHub and Whitesource so far.
- **Please pass the words around, we want more.**
- Volunteer needs to provide all the equipment.
- The idea is that if you have a booth at Kubecon and is
> willing to allocate some time in there to talk about
> the CDF/the ecosystem/etc, then Jac collects those and
> promote them.
- SIGs, WGs
- SIG-Security
- SIG-Security meetings merged with SBOM meetings through
> end of the year
- Kay: This will make attendance more convenient
- Meetup at CD Summit / KubeCon?
- Kay: venue is being planned. See above. Could be
> easily half day.
- Agenda
- Discuss overall Software Supply Chain framework
- SBOM, Metadata Storage API, Update
> Framework, Policy Framework
- SBOM, SPDX (software package data exchange —
> focus on license but it’ll be broadened),
> in-toto (currently under CNCF incubation)
> reconciliation
- Software Bill of Materials (SBOM)
- Working toward ISO Standard, hopefully in 2021. That
> road starts from OMG standard at the end of 2020.
- Bob Martin from MITRE is helping with this
> journey
- Draft specification
- 11/11 Submission to OMG Architecture Board
- New GitHub repo ‘sig-security-sbom’
- [*https://github.com/cdfoundation/sig-security-sbom*](https://github.com/cdfoundation/sig-security-sbom)
- DLz: this is really exciting!! When it gets more real
> happy to coordinate the PR activities
- Roadmap WG
- **ACTION: Kohsuke to send out an email to the TOC,
> hoping to get some +1s before we accept this.**
- LF China
- We have engaged LF China. Once the new Asia friendly TOC
> meeting time is chosen, DLz will give them a heads up
- Screwdriver conversation
- KK: updated the proposal with a link to the growth document
- **ACTION: Kohsuke to call for a new round of votes and /
> Tara: +1**
- Tara: I liked that they have inter-project engagement in
> there
- DLz: New project incubation recruiting
- Screwdriver coming in should help
- DLz: we have 2-3 projects coming in.
- DLz: Project Office Hours with CDF PM office
- Have regular check-ins with project leadership periodically
- We’ll start by understanding their needs first
- Email was already sent to individual projects
- I would also love to see inter-project collaboration picked
> up more at TOC
- How do we hand-off the landscape maintenance?
- Let’s have this as a standing agenda in the TOC call
- Code signing certificate of Jenkins
- DLz: We have a new entity that can now obtain the key.
> **ACTION: This will be coordinated this week.**
- See you in Kubecon!
Oct 22, 2019 :
--------------
- **TOC Attendees:**
- Kohsuke Kawaguchi (Jenkins) \[CHAIR\] - present
- James Strachan (Jenkins X) - not present
- Dan Lorenc (Tekton) - present
- Andy Glover (Spinnaker) - present
- Tara Hernandez (Google) - present
- Yoav Landman (JFrog) - present
- **Other Attendees:**
- Dan Lopez (Linux Foundation)
- Matt Young (Puppet)
- Fatih Degirmenci (Ericsson Software Technology)
- Jacqueline Salinas
- Spencer Krum (IBM)
- **Agenda and Notes:**
- TOC Call to support APAC time zones (call for suggested times)
- DLz: we just signed up Fujitsu (from Japan), and a few more
> people are asking for it
- Tara: I was looking more into “engaging people behind the
> firewall”
- A few people from Europe
- Looks like we are looking into rotating the call
- **ACTION: Tara and DLz to propose a rotating call
> schedule**
- Telemetry policy
> [*https://www.linuxfoundation.org/telemetry-data-policy/*](https://www.linuxfoundation.org/telemetry-data-policy/)
- How about existing projects
- DLz: The policy applies to all LF projects. No
> “grandfather” status.
- DLz: “we want to be as flexible as possible” but
> suggests getting the review underway ASAP
- Tara: I assume this has been driven by legal heat
- **ACTION: Kohsuke to initiate the review process for the
> Jenkins project**
- **ACTION: Kohsuke to add this to the TOC repo for
> blessing in the CDF**
- Are there other projects that are collecting telemetry?
- Andy: there’s currently no telemetry collection
> happening in Spinnaker, there’s an active conversation
- DLc: nothing in Tekton
- **ACTION: Kohsuke to ping James Strachan to check the
> status of Jenkins X**
- Landscape
- call to action to update
- [*https://l.cd.foundation*](https://l.cd.foundation)
- [*https://github.com/cdfoundation/cdf-landscape*](https://github.com/cdfoundation/cdf-landscape)
- Tara: TRagan was here last meeting, this is underway. It’s
> already out. Whoever wants to add can add PR
- Tara: I was wondering how to mix products/non-OSS as context
> into this
- New Projects
- Screwdriver.cd
- Current status: they came back with the updated
> motivation doc.
- **Next step: have Jiten update the proposal PR with
> this doc and call for a vote**
- ACTION: Kohsuke to ping Jiten
- new projects
- DLz: Eiffel - they are asking how best to engage
- Yoav: is there any pointer to this project?
- [*https://eiffel-community.github.io/*](https://eiffel-community.github.io/)
- [*https://github.com/eiffel-community/eiffel*](https://github.com/eiffel-community/eiffel)
- DLz: Follow up with Eiffel team possible at CD
> Summit NA
- DLz: Sonatype - Open discussions. KK/DLz need to get
> back to Brian @ Sonatype
- Tara: I was at an event “Redeploy” (?) and met somebody
> from Netflix in the resiliency engineering and cooked
> a SIG idea. This conversation will happen this week.
> Andy knows him too
- Andy: Resilience Engineering at Netflix is within
> Delivery Engineering (my org) and I’m happy to
> make additional connections
- SIGs, WGs
- SIG-Security
- DLc: update was sent to the TOC list. Look at that
- Yoav: JFrog has some relevant stuff. DLc: Ido is
> involved
- Tara: question — wrt security SIG, the expected outcome
> is a “specification” / BoM.
- KK: would love to see the adoption of this in CDF
> projects
- KK: as for Jenkins project, looking for contributors
> to drive the coding work forward
- DLz: I recommend we start with “specifications”
> before we call it “standard”
- SIG-MLOps
- DLz: I know the repo was created, activity has been
> planned but negotiating the final meeting time. Mail
> list was set up too.
- [*sig-mlops@lists.cd.foundation*](http://sig-mlops@lists.cd.foundation)
- [*https://lists.cd.foundation/g/sig-mlops/topics*](https://lists.cd.foundation/g/sig-mlops/topics)
- Tara: I met with tons of ML startups and I’ll inform
> them about this
- WG-Roadmap
- KK: I need to move this forward. More PR massaging on
> wording to do.
- Developer Ecosystem & Events
- CDSummit NA updates
- Jac: As of Oct 11, we are at 82 attendees registered. We
> are on track to sell out. Nice line up of sponsors to
> cover everything including lunch
- Currently looking for cocktail hour sponsor. Need to
> find one till Oct 25th or there will be no booze!
- One conversation in the mix, three more needed
- \$1500
- Matt: I’ll talk to my event people
- DLc: what about meeting spaces during CD Summit NA?
- DLz: CNCF informed me that the venue is
> fully booked.
- **ACTION: Jac to ping Emily to see if she can help
> with nearby hotels, etc.**
- Jac: We are rebranding Jenkins Area Meetup to CDF meetup
- ?: how about pricing? Jac: we are pruning unused meetups
> \[to cut cost\]
- Jac: we are giving them grace period to reboot till
> Jan 22.
- Jac: we are organizing meetups in south bay & Israel with
> JFrog
- Jac: DLc will represent CDF in upcoming Tokyo event
- Webinar topics, call for participation
- Jac: we are hoping to drive one webinar a month, will
> adjust based on the workload
- DLz: there are some content queue lined up.
- If you have content, go to Jac. Jac: I’ll create a
> form and send a link.
- Slack:
> [*https://join.slack.com/t/cdeliveryfdn/shared\_invite/enQtNzk2OTgxNzY2NzkwLTQ3Zjg0OGJhZjdiMjlkMjZjZjJjN2EwZDg1Mjk3ODJkMzdmYjdmNTk0MWI2ZjI2MzgzNWExN2E3ZWExZGIyZDM*](https://join.slack.com/t/cdeliveryfdn/shared_invite/enQtNzk2OTgxNzY2NzkwLTQ3Zjg0OGJhZjdiMjlkMjZjZjJjN2EwZDg1Mjk3ODJkMzdmYjdmNTk0MWI2ZjI2MzgzNWExN2E3ZWExZGIyZDM)
- Jac: please join!
- ACTION: Kohsuke to add a link to TOC readme
- DLz: more automated notifications to come
- Any other business?
Oct 8, 2019
------------
- **TOC Attendees:**
- Kohsuke Kawaguchi (Jenkins) \[CHAIR\] - not present
- James Strachan (Jenkins X) - not present
- Dan Lorenc (Tekton) - not present
- Andy Glover (Spinnaker) - not present
- Tara Hernandez (Google) - present
- Yaov Landman (JFrog) - not present
- **Other Attendees:**
- Dan Lopez (Linux Foundation)
- Jacqueline Salinas (LF/CD Foundation)
- Tracy Miranda (CloudBees) - not present
- Matt Young (Puppet)
- Kara de la Marck (CloudBees) - not present
- Fatih Degirmenci (Ericsson Software Technology) - not present
- Benjamin Brial (Cycloid) - not present
- Tracy Ragan (Deploy Hub) - present
- Kay Williams (Microsoft) - present
- **Agenda and Notes:**
- Landscape review (Tracy Ragan):
- Requests approval to move landscape forward (now published),
> needs infra support to help companies create PRs, and
> review
- TOC should be responsible for this -- start with
> reviewing PRs in TOC meetings, but if traffic gets
> heavy review other options (paid resource?)
- Question: CNCF landscape has duplication of the same
> company/products in different categories. What policy does
> the CDF want to have/support with regards to this.
- Dan Lopez: be clear about rational for this either way
> (review of CNCF policy)
- Tracy recommends we discourage multiple categories
> -- focus on core competency of each tool/project
- Need to ensure we have commitment to maintenance,
> (overseen by TOC?)
- Dan: landscape entries don’t necessary have to be member
> organizations (based on CNCF precedent)
- Complimentary offerings (integrations, i.e.)
- Also recruit opportunities for OSS projects for
> incubation
- “Projects” must be OSS but commercial products can
> be listed in discipline categories -- logos need
> to be clear on this
- We should also identify airgaps where we want to
> solicit
- TracyR: provided quick review of categories
- Tara and team agree there is some overlap
- Dan Lopez: Like to have this out and published by Oct 22
> and available by Kubecon NA
- Recommendation to announce to members to add logos via PRs
- Tara to take care of this with Dan Lopez review
- TOC Minutes to Github (Tara Hernandez)
- Tara H: Going to go ahead and start doing this, post-meeting
> convert live gdoc notes into .md file(s)
- Telemetry discussion (Dan Lopez)
- What are projects doing, wanting to do
- best practices, standards, specs
- Legal considerations incl GDPR
- Missing some key TOC folks -- followup on this next meeting
- Need to understand what information we want to capture
> and figure out least invasive way to achieve it
- Triggering regulatory controls Would Be Bad(™)
-
Sep 24, 2019
-------------
- Friendlier meeting time for our APAC friends? (Dan Lopez)
- **TOC Attendees:**
- Kohsuke Kawaguchi (Jenkins) \[CHAIR\] - present
- James Strachan (Jenkins X) -
- Dan Lorenc (Tekton) - present
- Andy Glover (Spinnaker) - not present
- Tara Hernandez (Google) - not present
- Yaov Landman (JFrog) - not present
- **Other Attendees:**
- Dan Lopez (Linux Foundation)
- Tracy Miranda (CloudBees)
- Fatih Degirmenci (Ericsson Software Technology)
- David Lai
- Jacqueline Salinas
- Matt Young (Puppet)
- **Agenda and Notes:**
- Security SIG
- Next steps for Security SIG -- founding team?
- Updates
- DLc: people involved are at a f2f meeting. I’m not surprised
> they are not here
- DLz: bi-weekly meeting will commence in Oct, along with the
> logistics setup.
- Done: ACL, repository. (this has been done b/w Tara
> & DLz)
- Goal is to use Wiki as a scratch documentation place,
> but the formal doc will be in markdown in Git repo
- DLz: we are planning a media announcement of the effort
- KK: this reminds me it’d be great for us to have a voice
> as blog / TDM: “developer voice”
- DLz: if you write one or recruit people to write
> ones, that’d be great! Just put them in GDoc or
> something and send it on our way
- TDM: CD Summit
- Agenda is live -
> [*https://cds2019.sched.com/*](https://cds2019.sched.com/)
- Please register now (only 200 spaces)
- TDM: Christie and I are co-chairing. We got 50+ submissions
> against 15 slots. I’m very happy with the schedule —
> great sessions. Thanks to people who reviewed sessions.
- DLz: there will be some media announcement on this as well
- DLc: there’s also codefresh CI/CD summit happening on the
> same day. Just FYI.
- TDM: if you are coming, plan to stick around in the evening.
> Some activities are being planned.
- TDM: member companies who have booth will run some
> guerilla sessions related to the CDF and we’ll stitch
> them together into one “virtual” event
- DLc: can we plan an in-person meeting for SIG/TOC/GB?
- Probably during the main show
- ACTION: DLz to inquire from Emily
- Roadmap WG
- FD: I was looking for wording to be more explicitly invite
> anyone involved in space.
- DLc: That part of the text was a little unclear
- Next step: KK to resolve FD’s comment by massaging the text,
> plus produce a few samples
- CDF & Outreachy - project deadline 24th Sep - that’s today!
- [*https://www.outreachy.org/apply/project-selection/*](https://www.outreachy.org/apply/project-selection/)
- 1 Jenkins project ([*Integrate Jenkins with GitHub
> Apps*](https://www.outreachy.org/december-2019-to-march-2020-internship-round/communities/jenkins/#integrate-jenkins-with-github-apps))
- 2 Jenkins X projects
- [*Create a Cloud Storage backed Helm repository for
> Jenkins X replacing
> ChartMuseum*](https://www.outreachy.org/december-2019-to-march-2020-internship-round/communities/jenkins-x/#create-a-cloud-storage-backed-helm-repository-for-)
- [*Improve the Jenkins X Apps
> Framework*](https://www.outreachy.org/december-2019-to-march-2020-internship-round/communities/jenkins-x/#improve-the-jenkins-x-apps-framework)
- Tekton pending
- Because Tekton was accepted as a community, deadline for
> this is now Oct.
- Fatih: CDF TOC meetings are not showing up in the public
> calendar
- ACTION: Jacqueline to look into this
- MLOPs Working Group
- Please review proposal:
> [*https://github.com/cdfoundation/toc/issues/34*](https://github.com/cdfoundation/toc/issues/34)
Sep 10 (?)
----------
- **TOC Attendees:**
- Kohsuke Kawaguchi (Jenkins) \[CHAIR\] - not present
- James Strachan (Jenkins X) -
- Dan Lorenc (Tekton) - present
- Andy Glover (Spinnaker) - present
- Tara Hernandez (Google) - present
- Yaov Landman (JFrog) -
- **Other Attendees:**
- Dan Lopez (Linux Foundation)
- Tracy Miranda (CloudBees)
- Matt Young (Puppet)
- Kara de la Marck (CloudBees)
- Fatih Degirmenci (Ericsson Software Technology)
- Benjamin Brial (Cycloid)
- **Agenda and Notes:**
- Friendlier meeting time for our APAC friends? (Dan Lopez)
-
- Next steps for Security SIG -- founding team?
- *https://github.com/cdfoundation/sig-security*
- [*https://github.com/cdfoundation/sig-security/blob/master/.github/settings.yml*](https://github.com/cdfoundation/sig-security/blob/master/.github/settings.yml)
- CDF & Outreachy
- [*CDF Projects in Outreachy
> 2019*](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WLTEbDOyrdr6TeDghHe1_1_D7W3h7gZ4pSxEP53FMhk/edit?ts=5d681d47#).
- Kara de la Mack - Jenkins X coordinator
- Advocate for program as a way of building community,
> particularly for mentor best practices as an
> ongoing effort for projects
- Recommends at least 2 well-defined projects as part
> of successful recruitment
- Even if you only pay for one intern, there may
> be some fund matching from outreachy to help
- Tara Hernandez - Tekton coordinator
- Still working on setting up projects
- Christie Wilson - Tekton mentor
- Tracy Miranda - Jenkins coordinator
- Sept 5 was the deadline for signing up for the intern
> program
- Jenkins, Jenkins X, Tekton all signed up
- CDF Contributor Summit
- [*Talks
> repo*](https://github.com/cdfoundation/presentations/tree/master/2019-contributor-summit-sf) -
> please add your talk links!
- CD Summit NA
- [*Call-for-papers*](https://linuxfoundation.smapply.io/prog/continuous_delivery_summit_north_america_2019_/)
> closes this Friday
- Schedule time for demo of LF CommunityBridge
- Dan Lopez/LF Product team (DLopez)
- Manage crowdfunding, internships etc
- Discuss possible alternative to Google Docs for meeting minutes
> to support int’l members (tara hernandez,tracy miranda)
- Create a roster of who’s where, and a survey of what times work
> best
Aug 27, 2019
------------
- **TOC Attendees:**
- Kohsuke Kawaguchi (Jenkins) \[CHAIR\] - present
- James Strachan (Jenkins X) - not present
- Dan Lorenc (Tekton) - not present
- Andy Glover (Spinnaker) - present
- Tara Hernandez (Google) - present
- Yaov Landman (JFrog) - not present
- **Other Attendees:**
- Dan Lopez (Linux Foundation)
- Ray Paik (GitLab)
- Matt Young (Puppet)
- Jeff Zhu (Futurewei)
- Fatih Degirmenci (Ericsson Software Technology)
- Wolfram Kramer (SAP)
- Kay Williams (Microsoft)
- **Agenda and Notes:**
- Vote on CDF Security SIG
- [*https://github.com/cdfoundation/toc/pull/26*](https://github.com/cdfoundation/toc/pull/26)
- **KK: let’s call a vote / Tara: +1 / Andy +1**
- Screwdriver update
- &lt;&lt; KK provided updates &gt;&gt;
- Create Roadmap
- Projects, priorities
- DLpz: Chris & I were talking about this, looking at how CNCF
> did this roadmapping. Establish the area that we want to
> attack — specs, conformance, etc. CDF should have
> that, too.
- KK: challenge I had was to find projects with passionate
> backers, as opposed to “wish list of things we’d love
> to see”
- KK: if we frame this as “call for projects” to clarify
> what we are looking for, that might encourage people
> out there to step up
- DLpz: I like Tara’s “reference architecture” idea.
- Kay: There are some projects in CNCF that I think are
> good fit for the CDF. Shouldn’t we be talking with
> them to have them come over?
- Kay had a specific project in mind
- Tara: maybe we look at the ecosystem map and that
> might give us the list
- KK: maybe we can start by giving more visibility and
> facilitate collaboration between CNCF projects and
> CDF projects/efforts.
- DLpz: Chris / Dan to discuss WG on cross-foundation
> collaboration
- Tara: I’d like to see smoother migration from non-cloud
> to hybrid cloud easier.
- KK: +1.
- Tara: this will help useful differentiation
- AG: I think “hybrid” is important. That prevents
> people from getting an impression that this is
> cloud vendor’s play
- KK: common format — e.g., test spec
- KK: call out more specific projects in the SDLC like
> artifact manager, test frameworks, code coverage, etc.
- **Let’s form a WG so that we can get people to spend
> their focused time brainstorming**
- KK: provisioning / Tara: environment management
- This happens all the time. This wheel is
> getting reinvented.
- New team comes onboard and DPE folks are trying to
> automate the setup of Jenkins, JIRA, K8s
> namespace, ...
- Matt: Do folks need help with CFP reviews or summit prep?
- Matt: Puppet is willing to help.
- DLpz: you should talk to Tracy Regan @ the outreach
> committee
- DLpz: I’m calling attention to the timing of CfP
- DLpz: Diversity, inclusion is getting worked on by the
> GB, if you have thoughts, send it to me
- Attendance? Projects?
- KK: calling attention to diversity in terms of geos of
> companies who participate. CDF participants are often
> companies, not individuals.
- TH:
- AOB?
- Fatih: I have Q around TOC contributors. I read [*the
> document*](https://github.com/cdfoundation/toc/blob/master/CONTRIBUTORS.md).
> Is that only for member companies?
- I issued a PR to add myself to this but no responses for
> 3 weeks
- KK: let’s make sure these things don’t go unnoticed
- TH & KK to make sure notification setup is done
> properly
Aug 13, 2019
------------
- **TOC Attendees:**
- Kohsuke Kawaguchi (Jenkins) \[CHAIR\]
- James Strachan (Jenkins X)
- Dan Lorenc (Tekton) - present
- Andy Glover (Spinnaker)
- Tara Hernandez (Google) - present
- Yaov Landman (JFrog) - present
- **Other Attendees:**
- Kay Williams (Microsoft)
- Ravi Lachhman (Harness)
- &lt;&lt; fill your names here please &gt;&gt;
- **Agenda and Notes:**
- Screwdriver next steps
- Tara: what I’ve heard is that the engagement with the
> community wasn’t the first priority. It felt a bit like
> “coming here for the sake of it.” It felt like a
> vanity contribution.
- DLc: I share some of the same concerns with Tara
- KK: I suggest I drive a further conversation. I feel like
> our goals are still aligned in terms of bringing
> them onboard.
- Yoav/KK: there’s a bit of chicken and egg problem. Others:
> +1
- [*Security SIG
> proposal*](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QHD628FJ4s9lyWtPUtzdTr2fbmnhyuB_908cfsJzDqU/edit)
- Kay: Dan & I chatted yesterday and I’m going to create a PR.
> That’s already there.
- What’s the next step? -&gt; discussion from the group
- Kay to send out email to call out people to chime in or
> be ready to vote
- KK: I’ve heard this effort in MITRE under the OMG umbrella
- Kay: I think what I’ve heard is the same lead
- Yoav: I’m interested
- KK: I’ll connect us all in that email
- Updates from the CDF contributor summit
- &lt;&lt; KK rambled a bit. Will write an email &gt;&gt;
- Kay: I got a similar impression. The CDF is still new
- Tara: don’t over emphasize development, and instead
> highlight other functions, like infra, quality, process, …
> are welcomed and they are needed.
- Be overt about those. Advertise them.
July 30, 2019
-------------
- **TOC Attendees:**
- Kohsuke Kawaguchi (Jenkins) \[CHAIR\] - traveling
- James Strachan (Jenkins X) - not present
- Dan Lorenc (Tekton) - present
- Andy Glover (Spinnaker) - present
- Tara Hernandez (Google) - not present
- Yaov Landman (JFrog) - present
- **Other Attendees:**
- Dan Lopez (Linux Foundation)
- Tracy Miranda (CloudBees)
- R Tyler Croy (Jenkins)
- Spencer Krum (IBM)
- Kay Williams (Microsoft)
- Ray Paik (GitLab)
- TODO
- **Agenda and Notes:**
- CDF Contributor Summit, Mon Aug 12, San Francisco
- Jenkins -
> [*Register*](https://www.meetup.com/jenkinsmeetup/events/262686097/)
- Jenkins X -
> [*Register*](https://www.eventbrite.com/e/jenkins-x-contributor-summit-2019-san-francisco-tickets-65105473223)
- Tekton -
> [*Register*](https://www.eventbrite.com/e/tekton-contributor-summit-2019-san-francisco-tickets-64992545453)
- DevOps World | Jenkins World
- CDF booth, [*CDF member
> talks*](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hVJgw4u2zvfd9tfhpIE3C5Jai6bH-bMNS-zj4m1aJpo/edit#)
- Open Spaces sessions for [*Jenkins*](https://sched.co/SpGL),
> [*Jenkins X*](https://sched.co/SpGX),
> [*Tekton*](https://sched.co/SpGb) &
> [*Spinnaker*](https://sched.co/SpGA)
- RFC: Screwdriver:
> [*https://github.com/cdfoundation/toc/pull/22*](https://github.com/cdfoundation/toc/pull/22)
- Call a vote?
- [*Outreachy Internships*](https://www.outreachy.org/)
- Next round is December 2019 to March 2020
- Sept 5 is deadline for community sign up
- Jenkins project has participated in last 2 rounds (4
> different Outreachy interns)
- How:
- Need to identify mentors and scoping 12 week projects
- Can be for more than just code (docs, design, etc.)
- Friendlier meeting time for our APAC friends? (Dan Lopez)
- Suggestion is to have an additional or augmented meeting
> time
- Annual goals from the TOC? (Dan Lorenc)
- Place in Github project/milestones
- Goals related to:
- Interoperability, standards, specs, conformance
- forward-looking strategy
- security
- project hygiene/infrastructure
- Working Group Proposal Status
- Jenkins from SPI status (rtyler)
- What is the status of transferring assets?
- Chris A. was tracking this.
- This is taking longer than anyone expected, Jenkins has some
> budget items it needs to resolve
July 16, 2019
-------------
- **TOC Attendees:**
- Kohsuke Kawaguchi (Jenkins) \[CHAIR\] - traveling
- James Strachan (Jenkins X) - not present
- Dan Lorenc (Tekton) - present
- Andy Glover (Spinnaker) - not present
- Tara Hernandez (Google) - not present
- Yaov Landman (JFrog) - present
- **Other Attendees:**
- Dan Lopez (Linux Foundation)
- Tracy Miranda (CloudBees)
- Ray Paik (GitLab)
- Kay Williams (Microsoft)
- **Agenda and Notes:**
- DLc: [*Working group
> proposal*](https://github.com/cdfoundation/toc/pull/21)
- Kay Williams to send out and link the prototype Security SIG
> proposal (done)
- Screwdriver proposal:
> [*https://github.com/cdfoundation/toc/pull/22*](https://github.com/cdfoundation/toc/pull/22)
- CDF Contributor Summit, Mon Aug 12, San Francisco
- Jenkins -
> [*Register*](https://www.meetup.com/jenkinsmeetup/events/262686097/)
- Jenkins X -
> [*Register*](https://www.eventbrite.com/e/jenkins-x-contributor-summit-2019-san-francisco-tickets-65105473223)
- Tekton -
> [*Register*](https://www.eventbrite.com/e/tekton-contributor-summit-2019-san-francisco-tickets-64992545453)
- Also planning events at main DevOpsWorld
- Booth, talks from member projects and companies
- CFP for CD Summit San Diego coming up next
- Reach out to Tracy if you want to participate in the program
> committee
- Open up CFP process
- &lt;[*dlorenc@google.com*](mailto:dlorenc@google.com) to figure
> out permissions on this doc&gt;
- DLc: EasyCLA - Tekton
- LF is launching a new project called EasyCLA
- Automates a Github Bot to handle signatures for CLA per
> project
- Starting implementation for Tekton
- This should be useful for other projects going forward as
> well
- TOC should drive requirement around CLA best practices
July 2, 2019
------------
- **TOC Attendees:**
- Kohsuke Kawaguchi (Jenkins) \[CHAIR\] - present
- James Strachan (Jenkins X)
- Dan Lorenc (Tekton) - present
- Andy Glover (Spinnaker) - present
- Tara Hernandez (Google) - on vacation
- Yaov Landman (JFrog) - present
- **Agenda and Notes:**
- [*Screwdriver.cd*](https://github.com/screwdriver-cd) team to
> present to TOC
- [*Presentation
> PDF*](https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5ImblZwZHW4X2FFOWZiUDNuckVtODRXeUtwQnJ0MGdmM3dF/view?usp=sharing)
- People from Verizon Media = Yahoo + AOL
- Gyehuda, Ashley, Rosalie
- Venugopal, Jithin Emmanuel - Product Owner,
- We built this project in the hope it’s useful for others
- We wanted to build a system that involves no humans
- Used across the portfolio of VM companies
- Origin is 2012 at Yahoo
- Pipeline as Code
- Initially this was orchestrator on top of Jenkins, then we
> hit the wall, so we rebuilt it
- We wanted to make sure it works at the scale of Yahoo
- The result of rewrite got open-sourced in 2016
- &lt;&lt; architecture diagram in the presentation &gt;&gt;
- Can use different ‘executor’ to actually carry out builds -
> Docker, K8s, even Jenkins
- Better isolation based on HyperContainer
- Usage
- &lt;&lt; usage within VM in a slide &gt;&gt;
- Features - lots from http://cd.screwdriver.cd/
- (scribe got distracted sending questions and failed to
> take notes)
- Analytics of where time was consumed
- Templates
- Commands as low level atomic building blocks. SauceLabs
> & FOSSA integration through that
- Contributors
- Yahoo Japan is the other contributors. They work
> independently from us, except for bi-weekly sync.
> (Despite the name Y!J is a separate entity.) They have
> been with the project since early on.
- Various PRs from outside
- Governance
- Weekly sync between two companies appear the main
> decision making process
- Documents and Kanban board on GitHub to record/support
> those
- Gyehuda: Not duplicating the effort is why we came here
- Andy: alignment with VM’s interest?
- J: This software is providing what we need. That’s what
> we get out of it
- KK: experience as an open-source project in the past 3
> years?
- G: Our goal wasn’t so much to get “million contributors”
- “Now is the right time to grow”
- G: We see this as an opportunity to expand to more
> “partners”
- J: We were not focused on users outside VM either,
> but that’s something we are working on
- VM built out an awesome OSS office. Rosalie: I’ve
> been full time on OSS office, and screwdriver is
> one of my key projects
- DLc: [*Working group
> proposal*](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c33ML-lLCewrDjGxCisRxbwqcl21kmAjJ62GbgAaRFY/edit#heading=h.j6l535d46l0s)
- I’ve added SIGs in addition to the WGs now
- Please comment in the next few days, so that Dan can turn
> this into a PR early next week
- Kay has already put together a SIG around security
June 18, 2019
-------------
- **TOC Attendees:**
- Kohsuke Kawaguchi (Jenkins) \[CHAIR\]
- James Strachan (Jenkins X) (absent)
- Dan Lorenc (Tekton)
- Andy Glover (Spinnaker) (I’m here!)
- Tara Hernandez (Google) (Here!)
- Yaov (JFrog) (absent)
- **Agenda and Notes:**
- DLc: [*Working group
> proposal*](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c33ML-lLCewrDjGxCisRxbwqcl21kmAjJ62GbgAaRFY/edit#heading=h.j6l535d46l0s)
- **AI: DL: I’m going to work on the other SIG like proposal**
- DL: I had the security delivery chain WG in mind
- The infra usage metrics collection stuff could be a good fit
- Any thought behind “3 member companies” bar?
- DL: Not too much, 2 could do, too
- DLz: we should be prescriptive of the communication channels
- DLz: CoC should apply to WGs
- DL: I was trying to avoid zombie WGs. If any of this came
> across heavy handed, that’s why
- Perhaps quarterly status updates
- DLc: Metrics collection for CDF projects (see email thread)
- Can the CDF help here with infrastructure? This wouldn't be
> anything we "impose", just a framework and infrastructure
> projects can use.
- TravisT: we are looking for how to instrument Spinnaker (and
> possibly beyond to other CDF projects) to collect usage
> info in privacy centric way
- Step 1: what’s the prior art in this space?
- **AI: there’s some more discoveries**
- **AI: DLc: I think K8s did something — I’ll find out who
> did this.**
- Step 2: if not, what should we do? What do we want?
- TT: I’m willing to drive this forward
- TT: I’ve heard from somebody from Armory.io about their
> input
- KK: I’d love to hook somebody in the Jenkins project up
> here to help
- AG: we need the LF input and policy around PII, policy,
> what members get access, etc.
- DLz: I’m happy to talk to Chris A and Mike D
> (LF people). We should have a call.
- **AI: TT to start gathering Spinnaker requirements**
- KK: upcoming active committer rep to the GB
- Nomination
- DLz: We have some nominations. I’ll send this out to
> the group.
- Voting eligibility
- DLz: it’s up to the TOC to decide.
- DLz: let’s aim for the end of the month. June 28th.
- Who’s going to be in Shanghai?
- DLc, Tara, a bunch of CB folks (Alyssa, JamesR, Carlos),
> Chris A
-
June 4, 2019
------------
- **TOC Attendees:**
- Kohsuke Kawaguchi (Jenkins) \[CHAIR\]
- James Strachan (Jenkins X)
- Dan Lorenc (Tekton)
- Andy Glover (Spinnaker)
- Tara Hernandez (Google)
- Yaov (JFrog)
- **Agenda and Notes:**
- Welcome
- Yoav: (he didn’t make it this time)
- Tara
- Doing dev tools & infra for decades. Originally built
> Tinderbox (‘cause tree is always on fire), that led
> to CircleCI.
- Did bonsai (because branch control)
- My focus has been tooling & support of engineering
> culture (from the eng mgmt side)
- I get to work with Jez Humble recently, who joined GOOG
> through acquisition
- I know Tracy Miranda (CloudBees, director of community)
- I’m probably the least nerdy
- CD Summit Videos online:
> [*https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2KXbZ9-EY9RB8bVvmiSOqB39eNMs-fAe*](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2KXbZ9-EY9RB8bVvmiSOqB39eNMs-fAe)
- Dan: TOC & WG sessions will go there as well
- Contributor.md maintenance
- [*https://github.com/cdfoundation/toc/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md*](https://github.com/cdfoundation/toc/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md)
- [*https://github.com/cdfoundation/toc/blob/master/CONTRIBUTORS.md*](https://github.com/cdfoundation/toc/blob/master/CONTRIBUTORS.md)
- [*https://github.com/cdfoundation/toc/blob/master/EMERITUS.md*](https://github.com/cdfoundation/toc/blob/master/EMERITUS.md)
- Code of conduct review
- [*https://github.com/cdfoundation/toc/blob/master/CODE\_OF\_CONDUCT.md*](https://github.com/cdfoundation/toc/blob/master/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md)
- Dan: I wanted to give people the awareness
- KK: Is this intended to apply to projects, right? Dan: Yes.
- KK: This is the first time the CDF “imposes” something to
> projects, so this should be pre-negotiated.
- AG: Spinnaker has the existing CoC policy. I’m curious
> how different they are.
- JS: JX doesn’t yet have but we meant it, so this
> is great.
- &lt;&lt; sounds like unifying this is not hard &gt;&gt;
- Tara: this is important stuff, I’m happy to contribute
- Dan: the reporter email address should be swapped out
> to something. It’s currently me.
- **AI: KK to initiate the thread & sell the idea of unifying
> CoC across the member projects & why that’s beneficial for
> all of us**
- Spencer: Where is that alias go?
- KK: I think we should create the private TOC list and it
> should go
- We the TOC are responsible to resolve this
- Spencer: how does the organizational memory get passed on
> when TOC rotates
- KK: stagger, and archive
- Call to action: interested project proposals!
- Dan: now that we have the project proposal is in place,
> let’s do this
- Screwdriver.cd & Huawei’s CDDL
- Tara: I talk to lots of fellow release nerds, they have bits
> of pieces of stuff that they like to open-source. Can we
> provide the guidance?
- **AI: Tara to start a thread on this. KK: I’ll chime in.**
- Events
- Upcoming
- Spencer: FYI, C
- Tara: C in SF, small scale sponsorship could be small
> amount
-
- Listing presentations on github
- Dan: There’s an opportunity to have a co-located event in
> [*OS
> Summit*](https://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/open-source-summit-north-america-2019/attend/).
> Contributor focused events.
- Dan: I’m discovering what that event team can do for us
- Dan: lunch & beer will attract people. Spencer: I can
> ~~make~~ ask IBM do something for us! :)
- The conversation is ongoing to expand existing Jenkins & JX
> contributor event to include Spinnaker (and hopefully to
> Tekton as well) end of August.
- **AI: KK to connect Alyssa with Dan.**
- Dan: Meetups
- A few conversations ongoing to support community meetups.
> Specifically, transitioning to Meetup Pro. Jenkins Area
> Meetup would be the guinea pig for this.
- Dan: this is the conversation between Tracy so far. If
> anyone wants to chime in, let me know
- KK: I’d love to see the execution plan when things get
> to that point.
- Dan: there’s an upcoming meetup planned in San Jose. Dan to
> coordinate with Tracy.
- Standards/Specs Workgroup
- Dan: FYI, there has been a couple of email threads/dialogs
> that led me to believe there’s an interest for this
- **AI: DLop & DLor are talking to bring the initial proposal,
> which should include some justification etc to let others
> react**
- Update on operations
- Director of Ecosystem
- DLop: tracking toward bringing somebody onboard.
> Starting date incoming in the next few days.
- PR/Media comms team
- DLop: this is coming into shape. By next call, they
> should be onboard.
- When ready, they can start taking over social media,
> whitepapers, blog posts, etc.
- DLop: I want everyone to look at cd.foundation to identify
> missing content. I want to create a “CRM process” — lead
> gen form to drive more membership, participation
> in events.
- Tara: are folks going to Shanghai? I’m going
- KK: I know some folks from the Jenkins project is going
- Spencer: I know some IBM folks are going (JJ?)
- AI: Tara to send out a short email asking on this, and KK &
> Spencer to forward that to the folks they know to get
> stuff connected in a recorded format
- **AI: fix the permission of this doc to include Tara**
May 21, 2019
------------
- Cancelled due to a collision with Kubecon, where a lot of TOC
> members have gone to
May 7, 2019
-----------
- **TOC Attendees:**
- **Kohsuke Kawaguchi (Jenkins) \[CHAIR\]**
- **James Strachan (Jenkins X)**
- Dan Lorenc (Tekton)
- **Andy Glover (Spinnaker)**
- Tara Hernandez (Google)\*
- Kris Nova (VMware)\*
- **Agenda and Notes:**
- Welcome Dan Lopez as a CDF PM!
- DLo: I’m an alumni
- Welcome 2 new TOC members: Tara + Kris
- [*FYI: CDF Summit at KubeCon EU on May
> 20th!*](https://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/kubecon-cloudnativecon-europe-2019/co-located-events/)
> (remember to REGISTER)
- CA: we sold out 200, we bumped up 300. But even that is to
> sell out by the next week
- [*FYI: CDF Summit at KubeCon China on June
> 24th*](https://www.lfasiallc.com/events/kubecon-cloudnativecon-china-2019/co-located-events/)
> in Shanghai (remember to REGISTER)
- CfP will start very soon
- [*Project proposal
> process*](https://github.com/cdfoundation/toc/pull/3/files)
> discussion + queue for approval
- **Decision: CA/DL to kick off the vote**
- RT took the action to report back metrics that Jenkins
> tracks
- New people on the call?
- Screwdriver.cd
- gyehuda: Here to listen & understand. Looking forward to
> propose the project.
- Any other business?
- CA: marketing committee is ramping up & operational
- CA: legal committee is ramping up, motivated by a question
> from Spinnaker
Apr 23, 2019
------------
- **TOC Attendees:**
- **Kohsuke Kawaguchi (Jenkins) \[CHAIR\]**
- **James Strachan (Jenkins X)**
- **Dan Lorenc (Tekton)**
- **Andy Glover (Spinnaker)**
- **Agenda and Notes:**
- Review of action items from the last week
- KK: Finalize TOC principles for vote next week on mailing
> list
- End of the vote is one week after calling of the vote
- ALL: Continue revisions on project proposals
- TDM: poke Jenkins X to list up infra requirements to
> [*doc*](https://docs.google.com/document/d/153UnFN21VsSLUVTR35UKrnxmaIvlJCa38QUcaSvgSxI/edit)
- JS: I’m looking at this
- FYI: CDF GB met last week for the first time, approved initial
> budget
- FYI: CDF GB is picking 2 TOC slots
- Voting ends: Wednesday, May 1, at 5pm Pacific Time
- [*FYI: CDF Summit at KubeCon EU on May
> 20th!*](https://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/kubecon-cloudnativecon-europe-2019/co-located-events/)
> (remember to REGISTER)
- CA: we sold out 200, we bumped up 300. But even that is to
> sell out by the next week
- [*FYI: CDF Summit at KubeCon China on June
> 24th*](https://www.lfasiallc.com/events/kubecon-cloudnativecon-china-2019/co-located-events/)
> in Shanghai (remember to REGISTER)
- CA: There’ll be CfP soon
- KK: This is public, right? CA: Yes, you can tell people!
- CA: this is day 0 - Monday.
- FYI: New CDF Program Manager [*Dan
> Lopez*](https://www.linkedin.com/in/danlopez/) starting April
> 29th!
- CA: he should be here in the next TOC meeting
- CA: we are also hiring “Director of community/ecosystem.” If
> you know someone good, send them on our way.
- AG: where is the job description? **AI: CA to share the
> job description**
- Call for vote on
> [*principles*](https://github.com/cdfoundation/toc/pull/2)
- [*https://lists.cd.foundation/g/cdf-toc/message/39*](https://lists.cd.foundation/g/cdf-toc/message/39)
> (TOC members please vote)
- [*Project proposal
> process*](https://github.com/cdfoundation/toc/pull/3/files)
> discussion + queue for approval
- Several outstanding comments — who’s court the ball is in?
- @cra addressed some comments, still WIP
- CA: TOC members are welcome to make edits to this draft.
> So the ball is in the collective court of the TOC
> members
- We want to aim for the vote to begin in the next TOC meeting
- DL: We still believe in vendor neutralness but we’ll stop
> short of calling specific criteria
- Discussion about “2 sponsors” → we will keep this
- There will be 7 TOC members by the end of May (currently
> there are only 4)
- **AI: DL to make a pass on this today or tomorrow**
- Q & A
- DL: how is the legal committee going?
- CA: this is being set up as we speak.
- **AI: CA: create legal@cd.foundation for inbound
> legal questions.**
- Next meeting will be May 7th.
Apr 9, 2019
-----------
- **TOC Attendees:**
- **Kohsuke Kawaguchi (Jenkins) \[CHAIR\]**
- James Strachan (Jenkins X)
- **Dan Lorenc (Tekton)**
- **Andy Glover (Spinnaker)**
- **Agenda and Notes:**
- [*FYI: CDF Summit at KubeCon EU on May
> 20th!*](https://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/kubecon-cloudnativecon-europe-2019/co-located-events/)
> (remember to REGISTER)
- This is happening in Shanghai as well. What role does the
> TOC want to have in curating the agenda? \[dlorenc\]
- Independent program committee - driven by community
- Volunteers for committee
- mailing list for program discussions - TOC list for now
- [*TOC Principles*](https://github.com/cdfoundation/toc/pull/2)
> approval?
- AI: Finalized draft with async vote next week on ML
- [*Project proposal
> process*](https://github.com/cdfoundation/toc/pull/3/files)
> discussion + queue for approval
- &lt;&lt; more notes here & AIs in the linked PR &gt;&gt;
- MW: I don’t think vanity metrics like GitHub star
> is valuable. I know Jenkins has metrics that goes one
> step further. It would be nice for us to mandate a higher
> bar here
- KK: in Jenkins this is held together in a duct tape
- Next step for Chris to make some edits based on feedback.
- Gathering infrastructure requirements from projects, see
> [*doc*](https://docs.google.com/document/d/153UnFN21VsSLUVTR35UKrnxmaIvlJCa38QUcaSvgSxI/edit)
- RT: I was looking to identify commonality between them, see
> if there’s a room for consolidation
- RT: input from Jenkins X is needed / **TDM to follow up with
> them**
- CLA bot unification? \[dlorenc\]
- Up to projects. If you want to keep Apache style CLA
> bot, we can use the LF CLA bot.
- CA: or Developer Code of Origin: (Linux kernel style
> “Signed-Off-By” header), but project’s counsel might
> disagree
- Ping Chris to get moved over
- First CDF GB meeting on April 18th (they will select 3
> TOC candidates)
- Nomination period, votes coming up after
- Potentially within 3 weeks
- AG: big companies often call us to ask if they have permission
> to use Spinnaker logo. In the CDF world who gives the
> authoritative answer?
- CA to create FAQ entry. In the future, we need to create a
> trademark policy. That’s up to GB.
- Action Items:
- KK: Finalize TOC principles for vote next week on mailing
> list
- ALL: Continue revisions on project proposals
- TDM: poke Jenkins X to list up infra requirements to
> [*doc*](https://docs.google.com/document/d/153UnFN21VsSLUVTR35UKrnxmaIvlJCa38QUcaSvgSxI/edit)
Mar 26, 2019
------------
- **TOC Attendees:**
- **Kohsuke Kawaguchi (Jenkins) \[CHAIR\]**
- **James Strachan (Jenkins X)**
- **Dan Lorenc (Tekton)**
- **Andy Glover (Spinnaker)**
- **Other Attendees:**
- Sheroy Marker
- Fatih Degirmenci
- Tyler Croy
- Michael Winser
- Tracy Miranda
- **Agenda and Notes:**
- Welcome!
- Andy Glover: Netflix, Spinnaker, Bay Area
- James Strachan: Jenkins X, the UK, 150 miles west of London
- Dan Lorenc: Google, Tekton
- Sheroy Marker: head of tech, ThoughtWorks, Bay Area
- Fatih Degirmenci: Ericsson but I’m here as individual,
> Sweden
- Kohsuke Kawaguchi: aka KK, Jenkins guy, the bay area
- Chris Aniszczyk: LF “behind the scenes guy”
- Tyler Croy: Jenkins board member, US west coast
- CDF TOC Meeting Cadence? (every 2 weeks to start?)
- AGREED: 2 weeks same time of the week (2nd and 4th Tue at
> 9am PT)
- DL: in person meetings where we can?
- Let’s pencil this in — AG: I haven’t made my plan yet
- CA to look into logistics a bit
- CA: it’d be nice to have a face-to-face between CNCF &
> CDF TOCs
- CDF TOC Values/Principles (see
> [*doc*](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1s1vF0bEvlKk7bgra2-456eNU_uknZQ8l3HMc797ApJo/edit))
- People seem to be happy of the current version
- Next step: turn this into GitHub PR, a round of comments and
> updates, and vote in the next TOC meeting.
- **[*DONE*](https://github.com/cdfoundation/toc/pull/2):
> ACTION: Kohsuke to turn this into a PR**
- CDF TOC Project Acceptance Process (see
> [*example*](https://github.com/openjs-foundation/bootstrap/blob/master/PROJECT_PROGRESSION.md)
> and end of values document)
- CA: [*I added this starting point in the
> doc*](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1s1vF0bEvlKk7bgra2-456eNU_uknZQ8l3HMc797ApJo/edit#heading=h.cqpstx8vnye0)
- DL: is the long queue in CNCF because of its process?
- CA: I don’t expect that many projects in here
- AGREED: that’s not a problem for us for now
- On maturity levels
- DL: there are implications of maturity levels to TOC
> seats
- KK: having three stages help here — incubating &
> graduating projects are eligible for seats?
- What do different groups to during incubation
- Be on the treadmill toward the explicit graduation
> criteria
- CA: CDF DevStats:
> [*http://devstats.cd.foundation*](http://devstats.cd.foundation)
> is helpful
- AG: anything you don’t recommend from copying CNCF?
- CA: if early stage project is important, just
> copy it. If not, we can cut that part out
- &lt;&lt; opinions seem to be favoring omitting
> sandbox &gt;&gt;
- Can be added later, but removing a box is harder
- KK: if we do without sandbox, there needs to be some
> adoption/maturity criteria for the incubating
- AGREED: omit sandbox for now. Two stages
- **Next step: add meat to those two stages.**
- FYI: First CDF GB meeting will be April 18th (GB will host TOC
> election for their slots)
- CA: we expect GB to send us 3 more people. 2 slots left
> “back-pocketed” for new projects
- Election would probably take 2 weeks to run
- **CA: if we have candidates we want, we should propose that
> to GB**
- CA: think about diversity inclusion.
- CA: end user representatives are valuable
- CA: we can also reach out publicly
- KK: let’s think about people we want here
- AG: how about staggered terms?
- CA: at CNCF we did a lottery to decide who gets 1 year &
> 2 year to create staggers. This will happen after GB
> sends the rest of people
- Q&A
- DL: CDF Summit quick update (co-located with
> Kubecon Barcelona)
- 4 overviews from each projects in the morning
- Panels in the afternoon being planned
- 200 capacity. 90+ has already signed up.
- [*Link to the planning
> doc*](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M1Cjz-cZH-6t_Iarzs4fcmkQVOrD3VavrzsTGqIP6CU/edit)
- AG: what’s the expected updates to projects?
- CA: No need to change package names, namespaces, etc
- CA: website update expected.
- TC: Jenkins team will have a meeting with LF infra team.
> Would Spinnaker folks be interested in aligning?
- CA: let’s discover what the needs are
- AG: I think about Travis, Artifactory, Discourse, Slack,
> …
- CA: Let’s collect requirements. Let’s start Google Doc
> and throw things in there to start with
- **TC: I’ll start the doc & add Jenkins stuff here**
- CA: this would be a good place to also list up
> assets slated for transfer
- ACTIONS
- (see 4 action items above, bold lined)
- CA: any budget related things, let me know before the first
> GB meeting
- CA: we prefer projects to come with specific asks
- Let’s get baseline of what’s being spent today
- CA: we are looking to hire somebody as “program manager”
- DONE: Dan to turn the invite into recurring
- DONE: CA to setup Zoom & recording
Future Agenda Items (please use as template):
---------------------------------------------
- **TOC Attendees:**
- Kohsuke Kawaguchi (Jenkins) \[CHAIR\] - not present
- James Strachan (Jenkins X) -
- Dan Lorenc (Tekton) - not present
- Andy Glover (Spinnaker) - present
- Tara Hernandez (Google) - present
- Yaov Landman (JFrog) -
- **Other Attendees:**
- Dan Lopez (Linux Foundation)
- Tracy Miranda (CloudBees)
- Matt Young (Puppet)
- Kara de la Marck (CloudBees)
- Fatih Degirmenci (Ericsson Software Technology)
- Benjamin Brial (Cycloid)
- Jacqueline Salinas
- Tracy Ragan (Deploy Hub)
- **Agenda and Notes:**
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